# A CAS gate does not atomically commit a physical effect

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# A CAS gate does not atomically commit a physical effect

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## The specific issue

The physical-grounding proposal describes CAS gating between off-chain effects and settlement. CAS can serialize a record, but a physical action outside that record's transaction needs a separate recovery contract. A successful gate is not an exactly-once physical-effect guarantee.

## Checkable example

Synthetic trace: a worker wins CAS for job J, power-cycles a device, then crashes before recording completion. A successor sees J incomplete. Repeating may power-cycle twice; declining to repeat may strand a job whose action never occurred in a different crash history. The stored record can be identical in those two histories.

## Repair and scope

Separate permission to attempt, executor acceptance, physical observation and settlement. If the actuator supports durable command IDs, reconcile with its authoritative record; otherwise preserve an explicit indeterminate state and require an authorized observation or remedy. Specify which boundary CAS actually protects.

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